Lady Dr. Dhyana Ziegler: Midnight Train from Georgia and a Legacy in Music|S5 EP218: Book Banter Podcast
- Dianne Burckhardt

- 7 hours ago
- 5 min read
From Gladys Knight and the Pips to the Extraordinary Life of Lady Dr. Dhyana Ziegler in Academia, Storytelling, and Cultural History

Hello My Happy People,
Today’s episode features my incredible conversation with Lady Dr. Dhyana Ziegler, author of Midnight Train from Georgia. This powerful memoir chronicles the rise of Gladys Knight and the Pips through the eyes of founding member William Franklin Guest, offering a rare, behind-the-scenes look at one of music’s most iconic groups.
From humble beginnings singing in a small Atlanta church to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Dr. Ziegler shares the deeply personal story of family, faith, and the sacrifices behind success. But this conversation goes far beyond the book.
We also discuss her remarkable career as a professor, multimedia creator, information technology educator, songwriter and arranger, along with the honors she has received for her work in academia, including being awarded the title of Dame Commander of Justice (DCJ). Her accomplishments stand on their own, making her story just as compelling as the one she tells about the music that shaped generations.
We also touch on the broader cultural impact of her family’s legacy, including their connection to Michael Jackson and other artists of the time, as well as her personal connections to the Apollo Theater, Walter Cronkite, and Alex Haley, just to name a few.
Throughout the conversation, Dr. Ziegler highlights William Guest’s legacy, the lasting impact of Gladys Knight and the Pips, and what she hopes readers take away from this inspiring story.
One of the most fascinating parts of our conversation was Dr. Ziegler’s personal connection to legendary author Alex Haley. She shares what it was like spending time on his ranch, meeting individuals involved in the groundbreaking television miniseries Roots, and even contributing to documentary work centered on his life and legacy. These experiences offer a rare, behind-the-scenes glimpse into a pivotal moment in cultural and storytelling history, adding yet another layer to her already remarkable life.
Because there was so much incredible information in this interview, I had to make some very tough cuts to meet my time constraints for today’s episode. It honestly took three days of editing to get it to this point because I did not want to cut any of it. But don’t worry, nothing is getting lost. During our holiday hiatus between seasons five and six, this conversation will return as a special two-part episode, with all of the additional content restored. You’re going to want to mark your calendars for that, because there is just too much fascinating history and insight here not to share.
If you love music history, memoirs, and stories rooted in culture and resilience, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. And besides, Lady Dr. Dhyana Ziegler was just and incredible person to speak with and I am thrilled to share it all with you.
Don't wait, go listen now!
Enjoy,
Dianne
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